Anyone have the appraisal of both modes on a perfect grind 36 stone bastard sword? Would be very much appreciated.
KAELRX
ISHARON
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/18/2010 11:14 PM CDT
Mine appraises as:
A gleaming silver sword is a heavy edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
poor (2/25) puncture damage
great (11/25) slice damage
low (3/25) impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably (7/13) balanced and is fairly (5/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A gleaming silver sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low (3/25) puncture damage
very severe (14/25) slice damage
fair (5/25) impact damage
You are certain that the sword is soundly (8/13) balanced and is reasonably (7/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
The gleaming silver sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword is worth exactly 12500 kronars.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall rank!
A gleaming silver sword is a heavy edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
poor (2/25) puncture damage
great (11/25) slice damage
low (3/25) impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably (7/13) balanced and is fairly (5/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A gleaming silver sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low (3/25) puncture damage
very severe (14/25) slice damage
fair (5/25) impact damage
You are certain that the sword is soundly (8/13) balanced and is reasonably (7/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
The gleaming silver sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the gleaming silver sword is worth exactly 12500 kronars.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall rank!
MARTINCOTY77
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/19/2010 12:48 AM CDT
That is a near perfect bastie. Perfect would have low puncture on the HE side.
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RAISHI
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/19/2010 03:11 AM CDT
A bastard sword is a heavy edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
great slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A bastard sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat fair puncture damage
very severe slice damage
fair impact damage
You are certain that the sword is soundly balanced and is reasonably suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the bastard sword is of average construction, and is in pristine condition.
The bastard sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the bastard sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the bastard sword is worth exactly 12500 kronars.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
great slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A bastard sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat fair puncture damage
very severe slice damage
fair impact damage
You are certain that the sword is soundly balanced and is reasonably suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the bastard sword is of average construction, and is in pristine condition.
The bastard sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the bastard sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the bastard sword is worth exactly 12500 kronars.
KAELRX
JMF90
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/20/2010 10:10 PM CDT
>That is a near perfect bastie. Perfect would have low puncture on the HE side.
Consider me extremely skeptical. Even the new app ranges are 5 points. As far as I know, no forgers ever bothered to optimize their mixes for anything other than word appraisals. But if anyone out there knows the exact apps on their mixes, I'd love to be corrected. I posted some myself, about a week ago.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
Consider me extremely skeptical. Even the new app ranges are 5 points. As far as I know, no forgers ever bothered to optimize their mixes for anything other than word appraisals. But if anyone out there knows the exact apps on their mixes, I'd love to be corrected. I posted some myself, about a week ago.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
FUTILITY
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/21/2010 01:32 AM CDT
> appr sword careful
A bastard sword is a heavy edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
poor puncture damage
great slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the sword is decently balanced and is decently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A bastard sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
very severe slice damage
fair impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably balanced and is reasonably suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the bastard sword is a bit safeguarded against damage, and is in pristine condition.
The bastard sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the bastard sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the bastard sword is worth exactly 1500 lirums.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
I'd argue that that is the perfect bastie. As you may note from the value appraisal, it's old, and if I still had the formula I used (3 computers or so ago) I doubt I would be able to duplicate it.
A bastard sword is a heavy edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
poor puncture damage
great slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the sword is decently balanced and is decently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
A bastard sword is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
very severe slice damage
fair impact damage
You are certain that the sword is reasonably balanced and is reasonably suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the bastard sword is a bit safeguarded against damage, and is in pristine condition.
The bastard sword is made with metal.
You are certain that the bastard sword weighs exactly 36 stones.
You are certain that the bastard sword is worth exactly 1500 lirums.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
I'd argue that that is the perfect bastie. As you may note from the value appraisal, it's old, and if I still had the formula I used (3 computers or so ago) I doubt I would be able to duplicate it.
JMF90
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/21/2010 01:10 PM CDT
I'm sorry but I'm not comfortable calling something perfect without knowing it's actual stats. Was another stat sacrificed a few points to boost the puncture rating? If you just go off of the appraisal verb you can't tell these things.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
PENDUS
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/21/2010 04:59 PM CDT
Yep, you would have lost a little impact. It's called "perfect" because it's all 19 grinds without a frown. That's about it.
SUGARSNOUT
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/21/2010 07:04 PM CDT
>I'm sorry but I'm not comfortable calling something perfect without knowing it's actual stats. Was another stat sacrificed a few points to boost the puncture rating? If you just go off of the appraisal verb you can't tell these things.
Basically what Pendus said - it's just all perfect grinds with a fairly pointless (PUN) puncture grind at the end for prettification. It's overrated and the description is inaccurate.
Basically what Pendus said - it's just all perfect grinds with a fairly pointless (PUN) puncture grind at the end for prettification. It's overrated and the description is inaccurate.
JMF90
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 03:04 AM CDT
Isn't perfect 20 grinds without a frown? Or is it an OBOE? Either way, I appreciate the input.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
PENDUS
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 08:36 AM CDT
I was pretty sure 19 grinds was the max. That could be wrong. I never grind to the max.
TYCH
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 09:33 AM CDT
Yes 19 is the max on that weapon
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 01:43 PM CDT
>>Isn't perfect 20 grinds without a frown? Or is it an OBOE? Either way, I appreciate the input.
It's really just a term used. Really the bastard sword without the grinds would be perfect. But the 36 stone bastard sword is unique in that using all 19 possible grinds changes the "word" appraisal of it.
ie, slice to great in 8 grinds, puncture to low in 1 grind, balance to reasonable on 10 grinds. All grinds has to be successful to get that which is pretty hard\lucky.
I am not sure the origin of the term but it's possibly taken from analyzing the weapon. If you analyze a weapon that has no failed grinds (frowns) it says:
>analyze my sword
The bastard sword is a forged two-handed edged weapon.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is 1% damaged.
You notice some mistakes were made in its manufacture.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
The bolded line above would say it was perfect if all grinds were successful.
ALSO, on a side note, when did this line appear?
--> It is 1% damaged.
Is the percentage something new or something I am now picking up?
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It's really just a term used. Really the bastard sword without the grinds would be perfect. But the 36 stone bastard sword is unique in that using all 19 possible grinds changes the "word" appraisal of it.
ie, slice to great in 8 grinds, puncture to low in 1 grind, balance to reasonable on 10 grinds. All grinds has to be successful to get that which is pretty hard\lucky.
I am not sure the origin of the term but it's possibly taken from analyzing the weapon. If you analyze a weapon that has no failed grinds (frowns) it says:
>analyze my sword
The bastard sword is a forged two-handed edged weapon.
It was made by someone with abilities close to your own skill.
It is 1% damaged.
You notice some mistakes were made in its manufacture.
It is a simple piece to make.
Obviously, this was made by an apprentice level smith.
The bolded line above would say it was perfect if all grinds were successful.
ALSO, on a side note, when did this line appear?
--> It is 1% damaged.
Is the percentage something new or something I am now picking up?
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ORRJ
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 02:27 PM CDT
>>--> It is 1% damaged.
>>Is the percentage something new or something I am now picking up?
It has been there a very long time, I think the whole time, you just might have not analyzed a weapon when it was damaged before. Now with the damage through use I'm sure you'll see it more.
~Worrclan, Dwarf of the Realms-
>>Is the percentage something new or something I am now picking up?
It has been there a very long time, I think the whole time, you just might have not analyzed a weapon when it was damaged before. Now with the damage through use I'm sure you'll see it more.
~Worrclan, Dwarf of the Realms-
MARTINCOTY77
Re: New Appraisal Bastard Swords
10/22/2010 02:37 PM CDT
>>It has been there a very long time, I think the whole time, you just might have not analyzed a weapon when it was damaged before. Now with the damage through use I'm sure you'll see it more.
Yeah that makes sense, thanks.
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Yeah that makes sense, thanks.
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