> jeo'telo

Literally translates to "ice'sword" from Gamgweth.

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>>Any and all items with a non-english name should have a LOOK that tells us what the heck it actually is. No slacking!

I would rather see this as a function of STUDY, and based on scholarship.


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The fact that someone was able to find a translation means that the answer is out there, it's just a matter of choosing to do the homework or not.


~Arwinia

Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
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I checked three languages without success before asking, and figured posting here would be a more efficient way to find out. Work smarter, not harder, you know?

And, of course, there's the little issue of 'ice sword' being a strange term. What exactly does it mean? A LOOK on the item in question might resolve the issue, but for now there's not much to go on. See where I'm coming from here?


XXXXX: Wait... you wear heavy plate, use a shield, and don't steal? Why not just roll a Paladin?
Me: Because I don't think my sudden urges to flip out and kill stuff fit the Paladin mentality very well.

I had thought some time ago a moratorium was placed on new items that could not be visually interpreted.

Mores the pity that people have all this cool stuff that may as well mean they are holding a decorative water clock and wearing a boat.

<<Any and all items with a non-english name should have a LOOK that tells us what the heck it actually is.>>

needs to be in the look and no skill check.

If my character placed a sisk on the ground next to a retigro . Your character would know exactly which one is what kind of object. Is one a shirt, a food, a weapon, armor, a book, a hat, shoes, gloves, etc?

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sisk = axe in Gamgweth
retigro = necklace in Prydaen

Yamcer

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>>Apparently his not a complete Dragonrealms geek and hasn't bookmarked all the language dictionaries. Instead he posted a very polite question and suggested that we should be able to identify what something is by, you know, looking at it. I too would like to be able to look at a weapon and know that it is generally a sword, if thats what it is. My geekiness doesn't demand I go searching in dictionaries for answers my character would reasonably know.

I get your desire to post in a snide manner at all times but I wasn't referring to the question, I was referring to his complaint/request that all items also have descriptions on them in layman's terms.

~Arwinia

Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
-Ssra

It is amusing and somewhat disheartening at the same time to find that someone actually likes the generic "You see nothing unusual" messaging from LOOK enough to want confusing items to have no LOOK description.

As a side topic, what would you guys interpret "A Frost-etched Ice Sword" to be? I doubt it's literal, but I'm at a loss as to what would make it an 'ice' sword, or how one would etch something using frost.


XXXXX: Wait... you wear heavy plate, use a shield, and don't steal? Why not just roll a Paladin?
Me: Because I don't think my sudden urges to flip out and kill stuff fit the Paladin mentality very well.

>>I had thought some time ago a moratorium was placed on new items that could not be visually interpreted.

There was indeed, though sadly we haven't yet achieved a state of perfection that prevents things from slipping by us. This could also be an item that predates the new rules. Can you help me out with where you got it from so we can work on making sure it gets defined and corrected for the future?

>>I get your desire to post in a snide manner at all times but I wasn't referring to the question, I was referring to his complaint/request that all items also have descriptions on them in layman's terms.

Sadly, this complaint/desire has been echo'd by myself and Solomon and is a policy we are aiming for. If an item is a chair, it should be recognizable as a chair even if it is a s'kra mur variant that everyone calls by the traditional name. Knowing that a weapon is HE or LE is not nearly enough in my book and when holding it in your hands you should at least be able to tell someone else what general type of weapon it is, be it an axe, knife, sword, etc. This should be possible without having to look in various dictionaries and make an attempt to understand what subtle meaning was used in the original translation which quite often isn't suitable due to the relatively incomplete nature of the in game languages as it is.

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>>I saw it in the curio shop in the Estate Holder clubhouse in Crossing. I want to say it was in the second room, but I'm not positive. There was another weapon there that I believe is in a similar state, but again I'm not positive.

You're right: There is a bow in that room also, a composite bow. I believe it's called a taisgweldar, or something similar. No one who is not familiar with in-game lore would know that's what it was- though it is possible to appraise it and find out.


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

>>You're right: There is a bow in that room also, a composite bow. I believe it's called a taisgweldar, or something similar. No one who is not familiar with in-game lore would know that's what it was- though it is possible to appraise it and find out.

>>And familiar with in game lore or not, I'm betting not a single person has a clue what makes it different from a normal composite bow either. We'll look into these.



Any relation to this title?

Taisgwelger
At least ? in Total Bow Ranks

> l yuo
You are Taisgwelger Yuoree Numbnezle, a Dwarf.

The gamgweth dictionary thingy says that means bowman/archer.
Also says taisgwelduan = bow. I'm not very good with lores :/

Kudos- stuff that makes the game more accessible makes the game more enjoyable for me.


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>> >>You're right: There is a bow in that room also, a composite bow. I believe it's called a taisgweldar, or something similar. No one who is not familiar with in-game lore would know that's what it was- though it is possible to appraise it and find out.

>>And familiar with in game lore or not, I'm betting not a single person has a clue what makes it different from a normal composite bow either. We'll look into these.

>>GM Oolan Jeel

I just went and looked... it's a horn-tipped walnut taisgwelduan. And what makes it different from a normal composite bow is... it's a long bow. :)

Is there something that makes it different from a normal long bow?

> preferably in an established description on the item

On that note, is there any news on the plan to allow us to look at items held/worn by other players? The last I heard of this was a few months ago, when Solomon was posted something to the effect of this being an easy add to the game.

I'm fine with having items with names like uku'uanstaho as long as I can pull off something like this:

> l uku on Ari
Silver lines have been embossed upon the strong black steel of the stock, giving color to the otherwise dark heavy crossbow.

Or even a new command to just spell out the obvious:
> l Ari
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Aristron is holding a silver-inlaid uku'uanstaho in his right hand and a keffiyeh in his left hand.
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> assess Ari
Aristron is holding a heavy crossbow weapon in his right hand and nothing threatening in his left hand.


= Father Aristron Karanea =

> assess Ari
>Aristron is holding a heavy crossbow weapon in his right hand and nothing threatening in his left hand.

I could see this as a function of appraise too. Instead of just listing everything they are wearing and where. Wouldn't even mind if it had a short roundtime, maybe 3 seconds, like appraise quick.

App Ianuilleam combat

Ianuilleam is holding an elegantly curved axe in his right hand which appears to be a two-handed edged weapon and nothing in his left hand.
He is wearing a Warrior's tower shield which is a large shield.
He is wearing a gleaming silver helm which is heavy plate.
He is wearing some gleaming silver plate which is heavy plate.
etc.

Maybe with lower appraisal and/or relevant weapon or armor skill it just describes it as 'some kind of weapon', or 'some kind of armor', then with a little more it gives you 'plate armor', 'chain armor', etc. and finally with even more skill gives you the full type. I realize some people may not want everyone to know that their dyed 'black shirt' 'black gloves' etc. are really a chain shirt and whatnot, but just because you don't want people to know you are all geared up for combat doesn't mean my character shouldn't recognise a chain shirt as armor just because you dyed it black. It's still a chain shirt.

Hrr'ibu is another one.

Sometimes I use google images to find out what weapons are, if they make sense for weapon type that is. Like a jambiya and koummya (leth LE)look very similar, for example.


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Looks like a war hammer type deal.

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