I was comparing stats for player made tyrium heavy chain armor with auctioned tyrium heavy chain armor recently auctioned during the Hollow Eve festival and was supriced to see that player made was significantly better. Is player made equipment suppose to be better than auctioned equipment?
Unfortunately, I was unable to compare weight and hindrances of the player made heavy chain armor (Kraggur's DRArmorCrafting3.0 website did not have these values tabulated). I have listed a comparison of the stats below for reference.
Auction Player Made
Puncture Prot/Abs: 6/12 7/13
Slice Prot/Abs: 6/12 7/13
Impact Prot/Abs: 5/12 6/13
Fire Prot/Abs: 4/8 5/9
Cold Prot/Abs: 4/8 5/9
Electrical Prot/Abs: 2/5 4/9
Construction 14/17 17/17
I have pasted links below to the stats of the armors in question:
Player Made Armor:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtCiblfUCREsdHRNZW9DSTA5Wkk2UXQ3VWtNQXJBeXc&hl=en_US#gid=3
Auctioned Armor:
http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Armor:Heavy_mail_thorakes_crafted_from_tyrium_links
VOLUND
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
02/26/2012 10:02 PM CST
>>Is player made equipment suppose to be better than auctioned equipment?
When player made involves the equivalent of 7 end prizes, probably.
When player made involves the equivalent of 7 end prizes, probably.
KROONERMANREVENGE
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
02/26/2012 10:32 PM CST
>When player made involves the equivalent of 7 end prizes, probably.
Pretty much this. Auction quality is not by itself the end-all-be-all of items. Something made by a player, with an auction template or auction quality mats, should rival or exceed the base stats of an auction item. Especially since it takes a crapload of the auction quality mats to do it.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
Pretty much this. Auction quality is not by itself the end-all-be-all of items. Something made by a player, with an auction template or auction quality mats, should rival or exceed the base stats of an auction item. Especially since it takes a crapload of the auction quality mats to do it.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
MARTINCOTY77
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
02/26/2012 11:10 PM CST
>>I was unable to compare weight and hindrances of the player made heavy chain armor
If you don't have weight or hinderance than your results show nothing, as everything hinges off these key items.
It's like comparing a glaes scim to a haralun scim and leaving out balance and weight.
Codiax.
Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
If you don't have weight or hinderance than your results show nothing, as everything hinges off these key items.
It's like comparing a glaes scim to a haralun scim and leaving out balance and weight.
Codiax.
Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
RANTHIL1
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
02/28/2012 12:26 PM CST
Pretty much everything should have hindrances in there, as well as densities. Weight is a simple calculation of density * volume, but probably something I can add in to the sheet relatively easy. Armor, to my knowledge, tends to be much more stepwise than weapons.
~Kraggur
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Blacksmithing Tools 3.0:
http://www.tinyurl.com/DRBSTools3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
~Kraggur
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Blacksmithing Tools 3.0:
http://www.tinyurl.com/DRBSTools3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
RANTHIL1
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
02/28/2012 12:34 PM CST
So looking at the stats on it, the closest comparable item is a mail hauberk.
The closest comparison I have is a chain hauberk (400 stones, but HC)
high (9) significant (10)
The thorakes is 50 stones heavier, so likely is a good stepwise progression on the maneuver hindrance. Stealth is standard for HC whole body armor.
Defense wise, it's +1 physical abosrb, +1 elemental protection, +2 elemental absorb (doesn't quite hold on the electrical end), and a bit better on durability (+2/+3).
To do better than the steel you're looking at somewhat weighted tyrium (coming in at 585 stones), or fully weighted, reinforced damite (coming in at about 650 stones). With that you'd also probably gain +1 to +2 maneuver hindrance.
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Blacksmithing Tools 3.0:
http://www.tinyurl.com/DRBSTools3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
The closest comparison I have is a chain hauberk (400 stones, but HC)
high (9) significant (10)
The thorakes is 50 stones heavier, so likely is a good stepwise progression on the maneuver hindrance. Stealth is standard for HC whole body armor.
Defense wise, it's +1 physical abosrb, +1 elemental protection, +2 elemental absorb (doesn't quite hold on the electrical end), and a bit better on durability (+2/+3).
To do better than the steel you're looking at somewhat weighted tyrium (coming in at 585 stones), or fully weighted, reinforced damite (coming in at about 650 stones). With that you'd also probably gain +1 to +2 maneuver hindrance.
DR Armorcrafting 3.0:
http://tinyurl.com/drarmor3
DR Blacksmithing Tools 3.0:
http://www.tinyurl.com/DRBSTools3
DR Crafting Calc:
http://tinyurl.com/DRCraftCalc
FALLENSHADOWS
Re: Comparison between auction and player made HC
03/28/2012 12:26 AM CDT
Tyrium still beats out average auction quality gear since tyrium itself is auction quality material, auction quality gear however will be comparable rare metal armor(ex. damite) of equivalent weight of which can sometimes be an impossible weight. They tend to more durable though, take that as you will.
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