My rimefang mows the critters down, but doesn't teach more than dabbling.

I throw minimum-prep intro tm spells at the same critters, and I move one mindstate per hit. What is up.

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>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.

While I don't think cyclics, due to their nature, should teach as much as a fully prepped TM spell, I would say half xp is more than fair, and we aren't getting anywhere close to that right now. I'll be happy to provide some data on creatures that are perfect trainers.

>>Even at just 13 prep, I find rimefang kills a faster than spawn, but then I'm left standing around like an idiot with nothing to do and having learned nothing from it. Made some piddling cash along the way. I paid how many spell slots for that?

Why not hunt something harder if you kill them too fast, which limits your ability to get EXP from them?

My understanding is that AOEs give less exp because it's pretty much set-and-forget once you get the cyclic feat, doubly so since it gives no combat RT past the initial one, and the fact that you could easily use non-cyclic TM spells at the same time.

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Uzmam! The Chairman will NOT be pleased to know you're trying to build outside of approved zones. I'd hate for you to be charged the taxes needed to have this place re-zoned. Head for the manor if you're feeling creative.

With enough skill to maintain mana, you can attack with two spells simultaneously, so cyclic has that going for it.

It needs to have an exp penalty or there'd be no downside. I can't speak to the rimefang experience, perhaps single target cyclic tm spells don't teach enough. USOL seems fine though, but that's AoE cyclic.

My experience in shalswars was that once I hit the soft cap on TM, USOL's experience dropped off dramatically whereas single target Vivisection still taught ok. So it may be that the soft cap interaction with cyclic TM is a little funny.

My solution was to run into a harder area just to lock up TM. Although now I'm kinda waiting for my tert weapons to catch up.