The Color of Life 04/30/2008 01:24 PM CDT
I seem to recall reading somewhere along the line that different mana types have characteristic colors associated with them. Assuming that's actually true and I'm not imagining it, what color is associated with Life? A few Empath spells manifest in yellow to reddish colors, but then you've got things like the new Ranger TM spells being blue-green or something.

Just curious.

Thanks,
-Kaith Partani Karthor
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 03:56 PM CDT
Normally I've seen it more as a comparison of mana to electromagnetic radiation, rather than a pairing of mana with EM radiation. That is, some mana has a short wavelength, and so is similar to blue/purple light, while other types have longer wavelengths, and are more similar in characteristics to red light. It's not so much that there are colors associated with the spells, but that the mana itself behaves in a manner similar to light.

IIRC (and I'm pretty sure I do), from shortest to longest "wavelengths", it goes holy, life, elemental, lunar, gravity and time. Gravity and time are unusable by mortals, although gravity is occasionally touched upon accidentally and painfully by lunar mana users.

I've theorized in the past that this explains why lunar spells tend to have a longer reach than other spells, and why lunar mana is the same everywhere. The longer wavelength/lower energy of the mana means it travels farther from its source (similar to radio waves, which have rather long wavelengths).

But I'm rambling now.

~Kashik
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 04:35 PM CDT
I have seen life spells with blue, green, orange, and blue-green. Depends on how it is being used, perhaps.
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 05:01 PM CDT
>>IIRC (and I'm pretty sure I do), from shortest to longest "wavelengths", it goes holy, life, elemental, lunar, gravity and time. Gravity and time are unusable by mortals, although gravity is occasionally touched upon accidentally and painfully by lunar mana users.

That's interesting.

I doubt, however, that the official mana properties are that explicit. There are certainly in-game rules about the properties of mana: how it reacts under certain circumstances, et cetera, but I am dubious that any lasting correlation to real-life light could be made.

As an example, Cleric alignment (good, neutral, evil) changes the color of many spells (Bless, Harm Evil, Harm Horde, maybe some others). The color (wavelength) of the spell changes according to your last favor. Likewise, an OM orb changes color depending on what favor orb you cast it on.
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 05:24 PM CDT
>>As an example, Cleric alignment (good, neutral, evil) changes the color of many spells (Bless, Harm Evil, Harm Horde, maybe some others). The color (wavelength) of the spell changes according to your last favor. Likewise, an OM orb changes color depending on what favor orb you cast it on.

No, that's what I mean. Mana (the streams of Elanthian stuff that our characters pull into odd shapes) is comparable to light. It doesn't mean mana is tied to light. So, while holy mana itself might act like blue light, spells that use holy mana are not bound to manifest with blue coloration.

The comparison was from a GM ages ago. It might have been Rigby, but I don't recall.

~Kashik


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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 05:26 PM CDT
You're extremely fortunate you asked this today and not yesterday.

Mana is without color and texture in its natural form. What mana "feels" and "looks" like is a schema the magician creates to interpret the input from a magical 6th sense. However, there is a consistency to appearance due tradition in the guilds and the external forces involved.

Holy: Golden. By default it has almost no substance, like a shadow of a real mana stream. Clerics perceive it getting more "real" as their Devotion increases. Paladins see it as "real" all the time, but its appearance reflects their soul. Diseased blotches appear around the Paladin in proportion to the amount of sin and hubris in his soul. Even with a pristine soul, they never go away entirely.

Life: Empaths tend to perceive it as something very light and airy, brightly colored and generally pleasant to look at. Rangers perceive it in darker, earthen tones. It ebbs and flows regularly, much like a heart, and tends to shift this way and that when not under the hold of a magician.

Elemental: Bards perceive it aurally rather than visually. Warrior Mages see something that has an amalgamation of elemental traits, and could in general be described as harsh to handle and "fiery," slow to move naturally but libel to jerk out of his mental hold if he's not careful. In both cases, Elemental mana is not the magician's buddy or some target of hippy communion; it is a wild, mindless thing to be mastered.

Lunar: Cold and white, very much like clear starlight. In opposition to Holy, Lunar mana is always seems very much "real" and with a sense of gravity to it. It seems almost static on the level of individual streams, but moves regularly in great, inexorable tides across the planet. Lunar mana has a creepy ability to sometimes form runes, symbols, and other expressions of meaning in the nominally random flux of this tide.

Arcane: A string of dark stains, like a vein of coagulated and discolored fat and grease, hanging in the air like limp ropes. It's never seen moving naturally, though if an area is left untended the streams might be in some radically different configuration when the Necromancer returns. The volume and intensity does not change in these shifts, only its appearance.

We'll not go into why I happened to have all that available at the moment.

-Armifer
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 05:34 PM CDT
Armifer, you add to my magical canon (the knowledge kind) in awesome ways.

~Kashik
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 05:45 PM CDT
That was hot.

Dibs on updating the wiki!



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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 06:55 PM CDT
>>Arcane: A string of dark stains, like a vein of coagulated and discolored fat and grease, hanging in the air like limp ropes. It's never seen moving naturally, though if an area is left untended the streams might be in some radically different configuration when the Necromancer returns. The volume and intensity does not change in these shifts, only its appearance.

Hmm.

>>We'll not go into why I happened to have all that available at the moment.

Why do you happen to have all that available at the moment?
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 08:21 PM CDT
Neat, thanks for that info. I was thinking more along the lines of the colors manifest in spell effects, but that mana stuff is interesting nonetheless. For example, I seem to remember statements in the past that the purple color of the bands seen in Energy Manacles was a telltale sign that it's a sorcerous spell. Since there seems to be a wide variety of colors seen in Life spells, I was just wondering if similar identifying colors existed for other types of spells. Seems like it's just a function of the particular spell pattern.

Thanks,
-Kaith Partani Karthor
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Re: The Color of Life 04/30/2008 09:00 PM CDT
>>For example, I seem to remember statements in the past that the purple color of the bands seen in Energy Manacles was a telltale sign that it's a sorcerous spell.

If I'm not mistaken, Sever Thread also has purple light, and both use lunar/elemental combination.

I could be quite wrong.
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Re: The Color of Life 05/01/2008 07:24 AM CDT
>Why do you happen to have all that available at the moment?

No one really knows the ways that his mind works. Even if we try, we can only come up with vague guesses and hopes. Considering this, it is best to give up now. Roll with the punches, and just watch as the tide of development ebbs and flows. Only then can you truly appreciate that which is the motive behind his work. Many try in vain to understand. And these are the ones that are most intrigued by his words. Never you mind -- ignorance is best. Creations of his can only be Evil, or dastardly abominations to all that exist. Return to your delicate, protective, dreaming ignorance in which all the world should remain, lest the beast awakes and reveals what terrifying plans he has. Slumber.



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Re: The Color of Life 05/01/2008 04:09 PM CDT
<<Life: Empaths tend to perceive it as something very light and airy, brightly colored and generally pleasant to look at. Rangers perceive it in darker, earthen tones. It ebbs and flows regularly, much like a heart, and tends to shift this way and that when not under the hold of a magician.>>

Out of further curiosity...is the manner in which Empaths perceive or otherwise interact with it affected in any way by their degree of Empathic sensitivity? I'm thinking specifically with regard to the new yet-to-be-released Shock system which will make said sensitivity more than just a binary present/absent switch. I suspect responses to sensitivity would be strictly at the spell level rather than the mana stream level, but you never know.

Thanks,
-Kaith Partani Karthor
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Re: The Color of Life 05/01/2008 07:41 PM CDT
>>Out of further curiosity...is the manner in which Empaths perceive or otherwise interact with it affected in any way by their degree of Empathic sensitivity?

Mana specifically? No. You don't need Empathy to perceive or manipulate Life mana.

Empath magic in general? It can, since the caster's Empathy and his innocence come into play in some of their spells.

-Armifer
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- Jean-Paul Sartre
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Re: The Color of Life 05/01/2008 09:27 PM CDT
That's exactly what I thought, thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks,
-Kaith Partani Karthor
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Re: The Color of Life 05/02/2008 07:18 AM CDT
what are you guys casting to see mana as colors? or is this just mana theory?


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Re: The Color of Life 05/02/2008 07:45 AM CDT
>>what are you guys casting to see mana as colors? or is this just mana theory?

Do not know about Empaths, but for Rangers:

Blue
Grizzly Claw

Blue and Orange
Branch Break

Blue and Green
Swarm
Plague of Scavengers

Blue*-*green
Eagle's Cry
Devitalize (blue and green in cast messaging, blue-green in damage messaging)

Green
Awaken Forest
Forestwalker's Boon
Energy Bolt
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Re: The Color of Life 05/02/2008 12:32 PM CDT
Energy Bolt is also green for an Empath. I'll have to go back and look at Strange Arrow.
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Re: The Color of Life 05/02/2008 03:52 PM CDT
Empaths get warmer colors in general. Red and red-gold and peach are the only ones that come to mind though.



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Re: The Color of Life 05/03/2008 01:05 AM CDT
regen:
red and gold

innocence:
yellow

refresh:
peach


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Re: The Color of Life 05/03/2008 07:08 AM CDT
Strange arrow: yellow haze

Lethargy: red
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Re: The Color of Life 05/03/2008 07:15 AM CDT
Strange Arrow looks the same regardless of what Guild uses it. It's not distinctly life magic. The only reason Energy Bolt was relevant is because it changes color and form based on what sort of energy powers it.
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Re: The Color of Life 05/03/2008 07:18 AM CDT
I suspected that. Posted just in case.
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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 04:34 PM CDT
>You're extremely fortunate you asked this today and not yesterday.

>We'll not go into why I happened to have all that available at the moment.

And what color is the entrance to the necro guild?
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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 04:47 PM CDT
>And what color is the entrance to the necro guild?

We're a freaking rainbow.




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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 05:25 PM CDT
There is no guild hall! It's Maisie. Smelly cat his her Risen. Why do you think it smells?


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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 09:13 PM CDT
>>And what color is the entrance to the necro guild? <<

Plaid.

Bright, garish, clown pants plaid.


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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 10:47 PM CDT
Actually, it's quite plain. There is just a big sign that says "NECROMANCERS APPLY WITHIN."
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Re: The Color of Life 05/05/2008 11:18 PM CDT
puce.


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