When we don't have mechanical lore anymore, fishing will no longer be training outdoorsmanship + skinning + mech lore, just outdoorsmanship + skinning.

Will the skinning experience be increased to compensate?

I think this should happen anyway, personally. It is a cooler way of learning outdoorsmanship than collect rock, and should be incentivized a little bit.

Here is my thought, and I'm sorry for butting in on a topic I know so little about.

If you gain skinning from fishing, then my thought is that eventually fishing, and skinning the fish will be part of cooking system.

Because I've been taken on three fishing trips in my life time and I had to kill the fish on the last one, actually we stood in their in the kitchen debating the best way for so long that the fish suffocated to death, and we all felt bad about that. Honestly I never thought suffocation the worst way to go.

So anyway, after you catch a fish, usually you keep them in a fish bucket with cool water, realistically I've only packed 2 large fish per bucket, if they want to make it so you can put more than that in there. I'm fine with bending reality for that.

So you umm cut the head off right behind the ear, and then you use a sort of rounded off I swear it looks a bit like a scimitar bladed knife, called a descaling knife and you could use any knife maybe a skinning knife would keep item counts down. Umm so yeah you carefully descale it, from the tail side, but you can start from the head if you want. Tail is considered easiest because you want to go against the scales of the fish.

Then after scales you have to debone it, now usually when you are descaling it your taking the bones too, but sometimes a few bones might be missed or if you do it wrong you might need to spend hours picking out delicate fish bones, and before you say I want to use these for carving. No. Fish bones are very delicate. The few things I've seen made out of fish bones in game must have come from giant sized marlin sized fish. A marlin should be as heavy as 4 suits of plate armor, possibly more than that, the same with tuna, they are BIG fish. I'm sure you already knew that. If you watched the Old Man movie.

As a crafter I've looked at fish bones from canned salmon and I could almost see them being cleaned and carved into little beads (the spine) but I really could not envision any other viable crafting application.

So after you've skinned it, then you can cut it into filets, and you get 2 per fish usually with small, 4 from medium, 8 from large and 30 from giant sized.

That is where I think fishing system should go or be finished as.

~Sircha/Racha 'always play a bard, always'

>We should increase the Outdoorsmanship from fishing to be on par with mining, at least

You can be injured and killed mining. There's no risk to your health going fishing. But yeah a little uptweak in experience would be nice. (Or a % chance that you land a man eating leviathan that takes exception to your fishing.)

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<<Long Term Solution: Introduce deep-sea fishing, and make it as dangerous (or more dangerous) than mining is currently, with chances for pulling up sea monsters that thrash about and must be killed. Could introduce a rare material or two here if desired, or just have a chance for these critters to have swallowed chests of pirate booty. Teaches Outdoorsmanship primarily, Skinning for gutting the beasts, and possibly an avenue for Outfitting (making/reparing rigging) and Engineering (repairing shipboard cranes and scales).

This would be a fun mechanic for a quest. A three-hour tour on a fishing boat, suddenly you are attacked be a leviathan/monster. You kill it, but it trashes your boat. So you end up on a deserted island and have to find a way home.

Nikpack

>>I see what you did there, Skipper.

You can build a gwethdesuan out of a coconut, but you can't fix a hole in a boat.

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>>Would be cool if fishing is the way some food is gathered for the cooking subcraft of alchemy, though. Then you could risk people being pulled into lakes and devoured by angry piranhas. KODIUS ARE YOU LISTENING?!

Do this please.